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Grizzly

Joined: 05 Apr 2010 Posts: 19 Location: Antioch, Ca
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Posted: Tuesday 6-1-2010 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| wagoncook wrote: | Pinquito beans cooked "Santa Maria" style with no meat and salsa added are tasty even to carnivores.
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WagonCook,
Having grown up around Santa Maria (Arroyo Grande actually), I'm a true devote of Santa Maria Style Barbecue etc.
My recipe for SM style beans contains 3 different kinds of meat and I can't imagine how to get the correct flavor with out the meat juices. But am willing to try!
AND- Where do you find Pinquito beans in Northern California? I've been having my brother to ship them to me...
Thanks for all the suggestions! _________________ Griz  |
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Grizzly

Joined: 05 Apr 2010 Posts: 19 Location: Antioch, Ca
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Posted: Tuesday 6-1-2010 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Gaelen wrote: | | Grizzly, if your client's guests have chosen to be vegetarian or vegan, and you've contracted to provide the food, you need to have a battery of home-run vegetarian recipes you can use. I never really 'got' the widespread foodie disdain for cooking 'vegetarian' meals. |
Gaelen,
We completely agree - I need a home-run battery of great food. I don't want anyone going home complaining about boring or tasteless food. But on the other hand, I can't afford to buy a whole set of new Ovens to satisfy the strictest vegans. The Client, in this case, is a friend and I agreed to cook for this event before I was told that there would be dietary restrictions.
No disdain here. In fact in college I dated a vegetarian and got really good at cooking for her. Problem I face now is that was 30 something years ago and I have been cooking mostly for carnivores and cowboys for at least the last 20+ years. My recollection of the dishes and recipes are both gone, so I'm simply asking for help rebuilding a repertoire.
You have given me a lot of good ideas - Thank you! _________________ Griz  |
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BigCAT

Joined: 17 May 2008 Posts: 374 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: Tuesday 6-1-2010 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Out of 30 peeps, I imagine only a handful would be vegan/vegetarian. Do you think your friend would be inclined to shoulder the major portion of buying a few new pots? A couple 12's (main and dessert) and a couple 10's (sides) would probably do it. Be a good way for you to expand your iron and have vegan-ready pots for the next opportunity.  |
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Gaelen

Joined: 08 Sep 2008 Posts: 112 Location: Central NY
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Posted: Wednesday 6-2-2010 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Grizzly - seriously, I meant that about never having had a vegetarian OR vegan refuse to eat one of the dishes I'd prepared based on the cookware it was prepped in.
While I haven't done any DO catering (except in the porcelain-enameled fancy French ovens), I do routinely cook in cast iron skillets which are seasoned the same way as a cast iron dutch oven. Are you thinking a vegan would object to the seasoning process (I use Crisco...) or to the fact that the 'juices' and fats from previously cooked meals are somehow made part of the seasoning of the oven?
I must run with a different group of militant vegans.
Believe me - we're talking food co-op holdovers from the 70s, but they all still eat the stuff that they *know* I've cooked in cast iron skillets.
Granted, I don't fry bacon, wipe it out, and then make a vegan tofu scramble in the same pan two minutes later while everyone is watching, but my post-cooking cleaning process is sufficient to remove any traces of meat cookery (or any other cookery) between recipes.
For ease of cleanup during your event, you might want to dedicate a couple of the ovens you already own to cooking the vegetarian/vegan meals. But I'm betting that people who are adventurous enough to go out to a ranch to do conservation work are also flexible enough to realize that if the food doesn't contain any ingredients they wouldn't eat, that's good enough.
Unless of course you wanted to use this experience as an excuse to buy new iron - in which case I'm sure someone will be along directly to support your options.  _________________ Gaelen
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Grizzly

Joined: 05 Apr 2010 Posts: 19 Location: Antioch, Ca
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Posted: Wednesday 6-2-2010 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Gaelen wrote: | | Are you thinking a vegan would object to the seasoning process (I use Crisco...) or to the fact that the 'juices' and fats from previously cooked meals are somehow made part of the seasoning of the oven? |
Gaelen,
It's the left over meat juices. I season with vegetable Oil - so my base season is Vegetarian friendly. I have a Vegie friend who brings her own hibachi to barbecues because she says she can taste the meat on her grilled vegies if they are cooked on the regular bbq - even if they are done first and by them selves.
I know that some Vegans that are very strict about their dietary rules. I cook for a Jewish group that is less strict.
| BigCAT wrote: | | Be a good way for you to expand your iron |
Big CAT - I like the way you think!!!
More information is coming in, and as I said, I have until October to get this all worked out. I'm probably being overly concerned (One of my best things ) I'm sure it will all work out! _________________ Griz  |
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Jerry Daschofsky steelheader69

Joined: 27 Sep 2008 Posts: 525 Location: Graham, WA
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Posted: Wednesday 6-2-2010 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Gaelen, see you must deal with a totally different crowd. To date, I'm VERY jaded when it comes to vegetarians, and even more so with Vegans. I will preface by saying I said all mine "tongue in cheek" with responses. I had to modify cooking for my Dad while he had cancer since he couldn't eat meat anymore (well, he could sparingly have chicken, that was it). What was sad, he was VERY strict with his diet, even when he knew his time was near. I think he was hoping for a miracle. But I had to doctor alot of the foods I cooked. All I did was take out the meats in the dishes for him, or twice boil the potatoes for him. So did my time with the vegetarian menu. Just wasn't a "TRUE" vegetarian menu.
Onto the different crowd. I'm jaded because I've literally been lectured and TALK DOWN TO for my eating "dead animals". Vegans seem to be the worse. Funny how I never said a word to them about thier lifestyle, but they sure wanted to lecture me about mine. Especially when I did a custom order at an organic market on my old UPS route, a couple really lamblasted me. To date, I've yet to meet ONE Vegan that didn't read me the riot act, ESPECIALLY when they find out I actually hunt and fish. And, I've met close to 100 or so of them. So far I'm nil on the "nice to talk to" scale. So yeah, I'm a tad jaded. |
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Carolyn™

Joined: 20 Oct 2009 Posts: 190 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Saturday 6-5-2010 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Why not get the names of some of the people attending who have special food needs and get them to give you suggestions.
The main problem I see is that if the special food is too tasty and too eye appealing the non vegans who arent fussy might dig in first  |
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